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		<title>By: Anonymous Male</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous Male</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geneveve, bravo!

I am not sure my girlfriend could ever be comfortable with such a non traditional relationship but it is the idea that traditions should be challenged that I respect in story. It would be interesting to know how you approach your own marriage if that is what cupid has in mind for you.

To Kate, I hope that someday you meet some male friends you feel comfortable with when their or your spouse is not around. Not all men have one goal in mind.

To Carlo, comments like yours are probably the reason women are always on the defensive. Yes I am very attracted to numerous women, but that doesn&#039;t mean sexually and that my ultimate goal is to get into bed with them. I have been in a serious relationship for 5 years and would love to get together with an old friend or new acquaintance over a beer... with or without my girlfriend. I always invite her but if she doesn&#039;t come with she completely trust me to not pursue a relationship. She is usually more worried when I go out with the guys. Honestly, women are much more interesting to hold a serious conversation with. Unfortunately, many people do agree with you Carlo which is why I have lost several female friends since they have been married. A sad example of jealousy these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geneveve, bravo!</p>
<p>I am not sure my girlfriend could ever be comfortable with such a non traditional relationship but it is the idea that traditions should be challenged that I respect in story. It would be interesting to know how you approach your own marriage if that is what cupid has in mind for you.</p>
<p>To Kate, I hope that someday you meet some male friends you feel comfortable with when their or your spouse is not around. Not all men have one goal in mind.</p>
<p>To Carlo, comments like yours are probably the reason women are always on the defensive. Yes I am very attracted to numerous women, but that doesn&#8217;t mean sexually and that my ultimate goal is to get into bed with them. I have been in a serious relationship for 5 years and would love to get together with an old friend or new acquaintance over a beer&#8230; with or without my girlfriend. I always invite her but if she doesn&#8217;t come with she completely trust me to not pursue a relationship. She is usually more worried when I go out with the guys. Honestly, women are much more interesting to hold a serious conversation with. Unfortunately, many people do agree with you Carlo which is why I have lost several female friends since they have been married. A sad example of jealousy these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Geneveve Levin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geneveve Levin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate people&#039;s comments on my piece. Couple of things I wanted to say:

David, this piece was meant to be &#039;academic&#039; to a certain extent, or at least educational, because this is a health education source. I was trying to give some factual evidence behind what amounts to a decision that affects people&#039;s health on all levels. The book will show the emotional side ;)

Anonymous, thanks for your story/take.

Kate, I didn&#039;t include the fact that he asked me to either grab a drink that evening if I had time, or to come out to their house and see Samantha and their daughter the next night for dinner. I was leaving town the next morning, so I chose the former. Also, we had attended many of the same events over the years, had drinks together and spent time one-on-one, and there was never an overt underlying hint of interest on a romantic level. Same went for that afternoon where I saw him.

Carlo, I agree that most of the time, there is some level of attraction between the sexes. But at the same time, there is also often a level of attraction between the same sexes, or married people, straight people, the list goes on (I remember two years after the fact finding out that a good female friend had had an intense crush on me. I was floored). I don&#039;t think it&#039;s necessarily about attraction, but whether or not one or the other person attempts to take it to the next level. And friendship is possible in-between.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate people&#8217;s comments on my piece. Couple of things I wanted to say:</p>
<p>David, this piece was meant to be &#8216;academic&#8217; to a certain extent, or at least educational, because this is a health education source. I was trying to give some factual evidence behind what amounts to a decision that affects people&#8217;s health on all levels. The book will show the emotional side <img src='http://www.holisticwithhumor.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anonymous, thanks for your story/take.</p>
<p>Kate, I didn&#8217;t include the fact that he asked me to either grab a drink that evening if I had time, or to come out to their house and see Samantha and their daughter the next night for dinner. I was leaving town the next morning, so I chose the former. Also, we had attended many of the same events over the years, had drinks together and spent time one-on-one, and there was never an overt underlying hint of interest on a romantic level. Same went for that afternoon where I saw him.</p>
<p>Carlo, I agree that most of the time, there is some level of attraction between the sexes. But at the same time, there is also often a level of attraction between the same sexes, or married people, straight people, the list goes on (I remember two years after the fact finding out that a good female friend had had an intense crush on me. I was floored). I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s necessarily about attraction, but whether or not one or the other person attempts to take it to the next level. And friendship is possible in-between.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a guy, I fully back what Kate just said. No straight guy is looking for &quot;friendship&quot; in someone of the opposite sex. Especially if they&#039;re attractive - your shadow looks pretty sexy ;)

This goes down to the question of, can guys and girls have purely platonic relationships? I have always maintained that this is impossible. There is always a level of sexual tension. One need look no further than Pretty in Pink (poor Ducky!) or Some Kind of Wonderful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a guy, I fully back what Kate just said. No straight guy is looking for &#8220;friendship&#8221; in someone of the opposite sex. Especially if they&#8217;re attractive &#8211; your shadow looks pretty sexy <img src='http://www.holisticwithhumor.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>This goes down to the question of, can guys and girls have purely platonic relationships? I have always maintained that this is impossible. There is always a level of sexual tension. One need look no further than Pretty in Pink (poor Ducky!) or Some Kind of Wonderful.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to agree with the school of thought that polyamory is destabilizing to the primary relationship and as much as I&#039;d like to believe it wasn&#039;t the case, I haven&#039;t met any couples who I know have done this sort of thing and actually made the relationship last.

Also, OP, when a straight guy asks you out for drinks socailly without the company of his wife, I have to say I know very few other reasons for this happening than what he hoped would (and what actually did) happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to agree with the school of thought that polyamory is destabilizing to the primary relationship and as much as I&#8217;d like to believe it wasn&#8217;t the case, I haven&#8217;t met any couples who I know have done this sort of thing and actually made the relationship last.</p>
<p>Also, OP, when a straight guy asks you out for drinks socailly without the company of his wife, I have to say I know very few other reasons for this happening than what he hoped would (and what actually did) happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny, because I was formulating an organized response about this in my head...then when I started typing I realized I have no organized thoughts about this at all. 

It&#039;s very complex and extremely personal. Overall, I completely agree with questioning the tradition of marriage, questioning the &quot;core of our entire belief system&quot;. Just because it is the way it is, doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s valid anymore. (This is coming from a married man, by the way.)

Saying that, I question what the point of marriage is then if it&#039;s to be &quot;open&quot;. The simple act of getting married is giving in to our &quot;core belief system&quot;, doing what is traditional. And that&#039;s all it is, a tradition. So if you&#039;re going down that path, then why is it OK to break from tradition and make a marriage open? In other words, why get married in the first place?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny, because I was formulating an organized response about this in my head&#8230;then when I started typing I realized I have no organized thoughts about this at all. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s very complex and extremely personal. Overall, I completely agree with questioning the tradition of marriage, questioning the &#8220;core of our entire belief system&#8221;. Just because it is the way it is, doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s valid anymore. (This is coming from a married man, by the way.)</p>
<p>Saying that, I question what the point of marriage is then if it&#8217;s to be &#8220;open&#8221;. The simple act of getting married is giving in to our &#8220;core belief system&#8221;, doing what is traditional. And that&#8217;s all it is, a tradition. So if you&#8217;re going down that path, then why is it OK to break from tradition and make a marriage open? In other words, why get married in the first place?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a really well written piece about am pretty complex issue. I also once experienced a very complicated and yet amazing relationship with a married man. Do date he is still the person who I have been most in love with in my entire life, and it was the most unusual situation I ever chose to be in. Up until then, I never thought I could do it, but I think the point is that human emotions are not easily categorized, and within many marriages people are expected to just bury the feelings and impulses they have. I don&#039;t think this is a good idea under any circumstances. While, at this point in my life, I can&#039;t imagine being in an open relationship, I commend this couple for developing the kind of relationship where they can be their complete selves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a really well written piece about am pretty complex issue. I also once experienced a very complicated and yet amazing relationship with a married man. Do date he is still the person who I have been most in love with in my entire life, and it was the most unusual situation I ever chose to be in. Up until then, I never thought I could do it, but I think the point is that human emotions are not easily categorized, and within many marriages people are expected to just bury the feelings and impulses they have. I don&#8217;t think this is a good idea under any circumstances. While, at this point in my life, I can&#8217;t imagine being in an open relationship, I commend this couple for developing the kind of relationship where they can be their complete selves.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 19:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Polyamory is a really really hard concept for me to wrap my mind around-- much less my emotions or my body.  

But I totally agree with this:

We think we have absolute beliefs, until we find ourselves in a situation where everything is different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Polyamory is a really really hard concept for me to wrap my mind around&#8211; much less my emotions or my body.  </p>
<p>But I totally agree with this:</p>
<p>We think we have absolute beliefs, until we find ourselves in a situation where everything is different.</p>
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		<title>By: Leigh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, I was the one who mentioned polyamory to David for the first time today.

Great article! It highlights many of the points that people see as faults, but I see as realistic views of relationships these days. I mean, if people cheat so often, why not take the falsehood out of it. Either way, you&#039;re dealing with intense emotion, but you&#039;re at least on a stage to deal with them in a direct, honest way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, I was the one who mentioned polyamory to David for the first time today.</p>
<p>Great article! It highlights many of the points that people see as faults, but I see as realistic views of relationships these days. I mean, if people cheat so often, why not take the falsehood out of it. Either way, you&#8217;re dealing with intense emotion, but you&#8217;re at least on a stage to deal with them in a direct, honest way.</p>
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		<title>By: Kendra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kendra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, great questions. 

The fact that the non-included partner consented is key. Honesty and transparency are key. 

Yes, it can all get messy, but such is the nature of relationships. Trust and knowing each other helps.

Courage and well wishes to you as you sort through your own repercussions, and don&#039;t be too judgmental with yourself. There&#039;s nothing wrong with not wanting to commit, and something daring about unsettling your own waters to get a better picture of what&#039;s beneath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, great questions. </p>
<p>The fact that the non-included partner consented is key. Honesty and transparency are key. </p>
<p>Yes, it can all get messy, but such is the nature of relationships. Trust and knowing each other helps.</p>
<p>Courage and well wishes to you as you sort through your own repercussions, and don&#8217;t be too judgmental with yourself. There&#8217;s nothing wrong with not wanting to commit, and something daring about unsettling your own waters to get a better picture of what&#8217;s beneath.</p>
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		<title>By: david miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>david miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>polyamory. this is the second time i&#039;ve read this word today. wudup exactly?

this piece felt &#039;academic&#039; for some reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>polyamory. this is the second time i&#8217;ve read this word today. wudup exactly?</p>
<p>this piece felt &#8216;academic&#8217; for some reason.</p>
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